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		<title>By: Allen Howell</title>
		<link>http://www.planeconversations.com/2009/11/17/netjets-announces-major-pilot-layoffs/comment-page-1/#comment-2888</link>
		<dc:creator>Allen Howell</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 May 2010 11:34:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Avantair does seem to be doing well and providing the service in a cost efficient aircraft. Thanks for commenting on our site.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Avantair does seem to be doing well and providing the service in a cost efficient aircraft. Thanks for commenting on our site.</p>
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		<title>By: Royaldane</title>
		<link>http://www.planeconversations.com/2009/11/17/netjets-announces-major-pilot-layoffs/comment-page-1/#comment-2885</link>
		<dc:creator>Royaldane</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 May 2010 05:08:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Agree with your analysis. The fractional concept is certainly here to stay. I hear it everyday from business travellers on how much valuable time they lose in commuting out of Chicago O&#039;Hare and Atlanta. To be specific, this is where a fractional such as Avantair is well poised. I truly believe in the fractionals that focus on a lean fuel efficient fleet with superior customer service to tap into next boom</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Agree with your analysis. The fractional concept is certainly here to stay. I hear it everyday from business travellers on how much valuable time they lose in commuting out of Chicago O&#8217;Hare and Atlanta. To be specific, this is where a fractional such as Avantair is well poised. I truly believe in the fractionals that focus on a lean fuel efficient fleet with superior customer service to tap into next boom</p>
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		<title>By: Rachel Charlize</title>
		<link>http://www.planeconversations.com/2009/11/17/netjets-announces-major-pilot-layoffs/comment-page-1/#comment-3571</link>
		<dc:creator>Rachel Charlize</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Nov 2009 22:13:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Rachel Charlize</title>
		<link>http://www.planeconversations.com/2009/11/17/netjets-announces-major-pilot-layoffs/comment-page-1/#comment-3572</link>
		<dc:creator>Rachel Charlize</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Nov 2009 22:11:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;span class=&quot;topsy_trackback_comment&quot;&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;topsy_twitter_username&quot;&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;topsy_trackback_content&quot;&gt;RT @tweetmeme NetJets Announces Major Pilot Layoffs &#124; Plane Conversations http://bit.ly/3HLTJj&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;</description>
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		<title>By: CFM Charter</title>
		<link>http://www.planeconversations.com/2009/11/17/netjets-announces-major-pilot-layoffs/comment-page-1/#comment-3573</link>
		<dc:creator>CFM Charter</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Nov 2009 17:58:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;span class=&quot;topsy_trackback_comment&quot;&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;topsy_twitter_username&quot;&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;topsy_trackback_content&quot;&gt;The giant is drawing in  http://ping.fm/H0vPd&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><span class="topsy_trackback_comment"><span class="topsy_twitter_username"><span class="topsy_trackback_content">The giant is drawing in  <a href="http://ping.fm/H0vPd" rel="nofollow">http://ping.fm/H0vPd</a></span></span></span></p>
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		<title>By: Jon Anne Doty</title>
		<link>http://www.planeconversations.com/2009/11/17/netjets-announces-major-pilot-layoffs/comment-page-1/#comment-3574</link>
		<dc:creator>Jon Anne Doty</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Nov 2009 17:56:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;span class=&quot;topsy_trackback_comment&quot;&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;topsy_twitter_username&quot;&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;topsy_trackback_content&quot;&gt;Hard times for NetJets.  http://www.planeconversations.com/2009/11/17/netjets-announces-major-pilot-layoffs/&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><span class="topsy_trackback_comment"><span class="topsy_twitter_username"><span class="topsy_trackback_content">Hard times for NetJets.  <a href="http://www.planeconversations.com/2009/11/17/netjets-announces-major-pilot-layoffs/" rel="nofollow">http://www.planeconversations.com/2009/11/17/netjets-announces-major-pilot-layoffs/</a></span></span></span></p>
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		<title>By: Allen Howell</title>
		<link>http://www.planeconversations.com/2009/11/17/netjets-announces-major-pilot-layoffs/comment-page-1/#comment-3575</link>
		<dc:creator>Allen Howell</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Nov 2009 16:55:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Clint White</title>
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		<dc:creator>Clint White</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Nov 2009 14:06:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Right now the glass is cracked, but much of the leaking has stopped, except in the fractional world. The fractional business model is simply &quot;broken&quot; as a result of a perfect storm of a bad economy, bad press and a credit crisis. Fractional models are based on selling &quot;new&quot; shares on &quot;new&quot; aircraft and apart from the Phenom and few of the light jets, there is simply very little demand for new jet aircraft. You also have the additonal pressure from a used jet market that is awash with inventory, this has put further downward pressure on prices. Under the fractional model, a share owner expects a certain level of resale value and its VERY difficult to guarantee that given the current market. I argued at least 2 years ago that the market was saturated in the fractional world and that the growth seen from 1999-2005 was simply unsustainable.

What is needed is more than just cost cutting. You can only shrink so much until you reach zero. There is still a market out there for people who want ot fly privately. Yes, that market is not as large as it was, but those companies that are smart and especially creative in their marketing approach will be the ones who survive and thrive. At the same time, the strengths that make each company great should be enhanced. This includes everything from customer and client service, pilots and crew interactions,safety culture and of course, the use of new media outlets. I think its important for any aviation company to be able to differentiate itself from its competition. The pie may be smaller, but a substantial &quot;piece&quot; of that pie can be obtained with a new and more modern business plan, fully aware of the new realities of the market. Only then will the glass begin to fill.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Right now the glass is cracked, but much of the leaking has stopped, except in the fractional world. The fractional business model is simply &#8220;broken&#8221; as a result of a perfect storm of a bad economy, bad press and a credit crisis. Fractional models are based on selling &#8220;new&#8221; shares on &#8220;new&#8221; aircraft and apart from the Phenom and few of the light jets, there is simply very little demand for new jet aircraft. You also have the additonal pressure from a used jet market that is awash with inventory, this has put further downward pressure on prices. Under the fractional model, a share owner expects a certain level of resale value and its VERY difficult to guarantee that given the current market. I argued at least 2 years ago that the market was saturated in the fractional world and that the growth seen from 1999-2005 was simply unsustainable.</p>
<p>What is needed is more than just cost cutting. You can only shrink so much until you reach zero. There is still a market out there for people who want ot fly privately. Yes, that market is not as large as it was, but those companies that are smart and especially creative in their marketing approach will be the ones who survive and thrive. At the same time, the strengths that make each company great should be enhanced. This includes everything from customer and client service, pilots and crew interactions,safety culture and of course, the use of new media outlets. I think its important for any aviation company to be able to differentiate itself from its competition. The pie may be smaller, but a substantial &#8220;piece&#8221; of that pie can be obtained with a new and more modern business plan, fully aware of the new realities of the market. Only then will the glass begin to fill.</p>
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